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Poster: garthus Date: Aug 18, 2009 5:53am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: FTP read-access is going away

Tracey,


I already figured out how to fix the Linux/Unix thing almost immediately after the appearance of the flash button and published it in another forum. By the way problem also exists in Windows based browsers when one runs lightened versions of the browsers. While it is nice to publicize this, no one has yet answered the real question. What is the benefit/purpose of complicating the process by using a proprietary plug-in to to facilitate an upload process. I generally do not use such things, specifically for the reasons which have appeared. However, from a global perspective; using such plug-ins is a bad idea. My family lives in Central Asia and for all practical purposes the interface is almost un-usable over a dial-up connection.

Could the developer who has done this contact me, I am really interested in understanding why this was done. In fact it would be easier to not deal with agent-based detection (which further complicates the process and now creates more potential for instability in the system) and just go back to a button which functions the way a button should; that is ---> 'on-click' ---> go to appropriate page.

Or have two sets of pages:

One for people who are impressed by such things and do not care about wasting their time doing uploads; and another for people who could care less about bells and whistles and more about actually putting things up in the archive in a way which is optimal. In fact I would volunteer to code such a page if given such access; .... basically two gateways:

One simple gateway which is user friendly, and compliant to the needs of people with disabilities and people who would prefer not to waste their precious time while volunteering their services to help the Archive achieve its stated goal.

One gateway along the lines of where we are currently heading; resembling a face-book page on steroids.

Gerry 18 August 2009

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Re:
response to posting on 'etree' by Tracey Pooh as follows;

OK, we have reproduced issues with files larger than about 8MB
with linux and our flash-based uploader.

therefore, we are pushing out an agent-based detection for unix/linux to show people how to use the non flash-based uploader variant.

sorry for any inconvenience and for the delay in this fix!
--tracey, archive staff

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Poster: tracey pooh Date: Aug 18, 2009 11:20am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: FTP read-access is going away

see
my post here

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Poster: skies Date: Aug 18, 2009 12:25pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: FTP read-access is going away

Hi,Tracy pooh , your name is such a blast!!!

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Poster: tracey pooh Date: Aug 18, 2009 11:26am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: FTP read-access is going away

and yes, exactly.
we surveyed youtube, facebook, and google video specifically (and others) when redesigning our upload system.

they all are pretty similar:
very basic metadata (title, descrip, keywords) form
flash or java uploader (or heavy JS with progress meters).

--t

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Poster: garthus Date: Aug 18, 2009 7:39pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: FTP read-access is going away

Tracey,

Bad examples to use, I am not impressed by google, youtube or Facebook, they are to clunky and bloated. It will be a sad day if the archive goes the way of those monsters.

Gerry

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Poster: IndieInvasion Date: Aug 19, 2009 2:54pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: FTP read-access is going away

If it ain't broke, don't fix it! There is no reason that having access to FTP should be phased out! Honestly, would you ever try to upload a 300+MB file inside a web browser? And shouldn't the necessities of all users be taken into consideration when making sweeping changes like completely removing FTP access??? I understand the need to make uploading easier for (non-techie)users but that doesn't negate the need for more technically-minded users to have access to a protocol that allows for larger volume uploads. (and don't tell me the new uploader can handle 8GB files, browsers (particularly w/ flash) aren't going to be able to do that reliably)

If there were an alternative to Archive.org I would be switching right about now!

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Poster: tracey pooh Date: Aug 19, 2009 3:00pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: FTP read-access is going away

there is a way to upload files w/o using the flash.
in fact, for files over 2GB, it automatically shows you how to do that.

it's much more common these days to upload files with HTTP
and we've taken much care to make sure large file uploads work.

--tracey